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This is why my username is disbelief...

After watching SYTYCD tonight and hearing about the upset over Mia's jacket and Wade's anti-war choreography, I did some surfing to find out more about it. I was shaking my head in disbelief at some of the comments I saw on the Fox SYTYCD boards.

Let's talk about Mia's jacket first. A number of people considered it a "slap in the face" to all Marines and were "absolutely disgusted" by her wearing it. Most of them vowed to never waste time watching the show again, "ooo-rahh."

On the one hand, I can understand how our brave citizens in the military are bothered by things like this - they have to do a lot to get to wear those uniforms. They do a dangerous job and wear the uniforms proudly.

On the other hand, fashion taking cues from the military (and often getting details wrong, like where and how the symbols should be placed) is nothing new. Is it an insult everytime that happens? Maybe some designers and some consumers think you look cool in your uniforms, and perhaps they intend it to be more of an homage than an insult. Or is the insult purely based on timing, where it's cool during times of peace but insulting during times of war?

However you may see it, Mia apologized and stated that she never intended to insult the military. Angry message board posters, are you able to accept her apology and move on? On the boards there were a few people from the military who were doing so but the majority of the posters were too busy being righteously indignant (at the time I was reading).


Now, Wade's anti-war routine. I think it was a load of crap that Nigel had to say anything at all about it. There should have been no excuses, no apologies, no explanations. It's called freedom of expression. It's not an insult to our troops to want peace, and to want the people who are serving in the war to come home safely. Plus, it's one of the freedoms the armed services are protecting, thank you very much.

Why can't an opposing opinion generate a discussion instead of histrionics? Why is a differing opinion so scary and dangerous? What do we gain from this us vs. them mentality?



This is why my username is disbelief. I can't believe how thin-skinned and arrogant and ignorant some people are.

Date: 2007-07-27 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anathema666.livejournal.com
You are awesome. Rilly rilly rilly awesome.

Date: 2007-07-27 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] disbelief11.livejournal.com
I wanted to call you last night but Christy had a work emergency and was using the phones. Anyway, I dreamt about Fluevog shoes so I'm hoping that means you've received them and they fit! Tell me!

Date: 2007-07-27 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anathema666.livejournal.com
Nope, haven't arrived yet. I'll let you know the second that they do.

BTW, the money order should arrive Tuesday.

Thanks again, sweetie.

Date: 2007-07-27 06:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mei-x.livejournal.com
Yeah, the first I had heard of the brouhaha was when they addressed it on the show. I totally agree with your post. A) Mia's jacket was so cool, I really thought it was stylish last night. And B) Wade's routine got kind of boring after 10 repetitions, but it was not insulting or offensive in the least.

Date: 2007-07-27 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] disbelief11.livejournal.com
C. thought it looked like a band jacket and we didn't even notice the chevrons until we knew to look for them. Of course, we're not in the Marines.

Wade's dance was about things like unity, understanding, communication...just like what the dancers chose to put on the shirts. I didn't see any anti-Bush, anti-troops messages up their on the shirts.

I agree with you on the boring repetitions but it did help to show how each dancer had different abilities. Wonder what they'll do next week?

Date: 2007-07-27 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkymonster.livejournal.com
Wait. Can we back up. Anti-war dance routine? Huh?

Date: 2007-07-27 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] disbelief11.livejournal.com
That was the concept - or as they love to talk about on SYTYCD, the 'story behind the piece'. The video package showed the choreographer telling the dancers that it was about peace, an anti-war routine. He gave them a list of words as inspiration, like unity, understanding, communication, hope, etc.

All of which was apparently tremendously insulting to the posters on the SYTYCD boards (and I'm guessing there were people who called Fox). From what I could see, the basic argument was "We're at war! How rude to talk about peace! What an un-American thing to do!"

Then there was an on-air apology/explanation for it.

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